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Josh McCown is another Browns' QB mentor, but to whom?

Mar 02, 2015 -- 6:00am

By Tony Grossi |



The Morning Kickoff …

What is going on?: The signing of 35-year-old Josh McCown makes sense for a team eager to supplement its new franchise quarterback with a quality mentor and veteran backup.

A team like Tampa Bay, which is most likely going to make Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston the No. 1 pick of the draft on April 30.

But, wait. Tampa Bay had McCown under contract for another year, and the Bucs released him. Rather than entrust mentoring duties to McCown, Tampa Bay elected to keep the younger Mike Glennon, who could have returned a middle round draft choice in trade.

What went into that thinking? Maybe it was the fact that McCown, blessed with a one-two receiving punch of Vincent Jackson and Mike Evans, couldn’t complete 60 percent of his passes and proceeded to lose 10 of 11 starts.

So the Bucs released him. And McCown visited with the Jets, Bears, Bills and Browns. And the Browns outbid the Bills with a contract offer of $14 million over three years, including $6.25 million in guaranteed money.

McCown will be paid $5.25 million by the Browns in 2015.

That’s 75 percent more than the deal proposed by the agent of Brian Hoyer at the start of the 2014 season. That offer, presented as Hoyer was rehabilitating from a torn ACL, would have paid Hoyer $3 million if he played 70 percent of the team’s offensive snaps. If the team made the playoffs, Hoyer’s payload would have increased to $8 million.

The Browns said no.

And now they have replaced Hoyer, who was 10-6 as the team’s starting quarterback the past two years – OK, 9-6 if you subtract the game in which he injured his knee in the first quarter with the team behind, 10-0 – with a 12-year journeyman whose career record in the NFL is 17-32 and 3-5 in the United Football League.

What in name of Jake Delhomme is going on here?

A history lesson: The Browns have a sordid history of adding washed-up quarterbacks since they returned as an expansion franchise in 1999.

It started with Ty Detmer, 32, in 1999. He was 0-2 his first year and spent his second year on injured reserve before being traded.

In 2000, Doug Pederson, 32, was summoned by coach Chris Palmer after a spate of injuries. He compiled a 1-7 record – his lone win coming against Bill Belichick’s New England Patriots.

In 2004, Butch Davis had the brainstorm of signing Jeff Garcia, 34, to be his starting quarterback. Garcia went 3-7.

In 2005, new GM Phil Savage called on Trent Dilfer, 33, to serve as rookie Charlie Frye’s mentor. Dilfer went 4-7 before he was yanked. Dilfer was so put off by sitting behind Frye that he demanded Savage to trade him the following year.

In 2010, new President Mike Holmgren paid Delhomme, 35, an incredible $8 million to be the Browns’ starting quarterback. Delhomme suffered a high ankle sprain in his first game and stumbled around to a 2-2 record.

Now comes McCown, who has started more than 10 games only twice in 12 seasons, who has completed more than 60 percent of his passes only three times, who has thrown more touchdowns than interceptions in a season only two times.

So who’s the starter?: You want to believe that the Browns envision McCown as a mentor to … Johnny Manziel … or somebody else.

Hoyer’s fate with the Browns may have been sealed when the rumor blazed the Internet that he would not be agreeable to return in 2015 with Manziel on the team. Hoyer did not immediately quash it, saying at first that he hadn’t seen the report and that at this stage of his career he wanted to play as a starter.

When Hoyer’s game slumped – precipitated by the injury to center Alex Mack and the Browns’ inability to replace him, and then by the return of enigmatic receiver Josh Gordon – the Browns dismissed him as a quarterback who couldn’t win consistently and wouldn’t accept a role as Manziel’s babysitter. They were oil and water, Hoyer and Manziel.

So McCown was brought in ostensibly to be a mentor on a team with an offensive coordinator, John DeFilippo, the same age as he and a quarterbacks coach, Kevin O’Connell, six years younger.

But with Manziel in rehab and his schoolyard game still a major question mark, McCown figures to be the Browns’ 23rd starting quarterback since 1999 when the 2015 season opens in September.

And the odds are overwhelming that McCown will be “one and done” and will not last beyond 2015. Detmer, Pederson, Garcia, Dilfer and Delhomme all played but one season and posted a combined record of 10-25 with the Browns.

The McCown signing? As GM Ray Farmer would say, it is what it is.


Tony Grossi covers the Browns for ESPN 850 WKNR, ESPN 1540 KNR2 and

He has covered the Browns with distinction since 1984 and is one of 46 voters for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Use the hashtag #HeyTony on Twitter or email your “Hey Tony” questions to

Follow Tony on Twitter @tonygrossi




Browns outbid Buffalo Bills for QB Josh McCown, turn page on Brian Hoyer era

Feb 27, 2015 -- 6:56pm

By Tony Grossi |



Updated at 7:51 p.m.

The two teams with the longest playoff drought in the NFL competed for 35-year-old free agent quarterback Josh McCown, and the Browns won.

McCown had relationships with assistant coaches on the Browns and the Buffalo Bills. But he chose the Browns probably because of the greater chance to start.

Yes, McCown is the front-runner to be the 23rd different starting quarterback when the Browns open the season in September. The Browns see him ultimately phasing into the role of mentor as their search for a permanent starting quarterback drones on.

McCown joins 2014 rookies Johnny Manziel and Connor Shaw on the quarterback roster. Manziel was 0-2 and Shaw 0-1 in starting assignments last year. Manziel has been not heard from since checking into an undisclosed treatment center on Jan. 28.

In agreeing to a three-year contract with McCown, the Browns effectively turn the page on the Brian Hoyer era after two seasons. Hoyer, the native of Cleveland, won 10 of 16 games in his brief tenure, making him the only quarterback to post a winning record as starter since 1999.

Hoyer will be a free agent starting on March 10. He was hoping to have a face-to-face meeting with Browns General Manager Ray Farmer before then, but it never occurred.

“Josh is your consummate professional,” Farmer said in a statement released by the club. “He’s known to be a great guy in the locker room and will be great for the quarterback room. He knows how to get an entire offense on the same page and get a team to rally behind him. He has been exposed to a lot of different types of offenses and we think still has the drive and skill set to be a successful quarterback in this league.”

McCown, who turns 36 on July 4, is 17-32 in an itinerant NFL career that began as a third-round draft choice of the Arizona Cardinals in 2002. He proceeded to play with the Detroit Lions, Oakland Raiders, Carolina Panthers, Chicago Bears and Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

In 2010, McCown played for Hartford of the United Football League under former Browns head coach Chris Palmer.

Palmer, recently added by the Bills as a senior offensive assistant coach, was one of several former associations McCown had with Bills coaches. The Bills’ staff under new coach Rex Ryan also includes offensive line coach Aaron Kromer (whom McCown played with in Chicago) and offensive coordinator Greg Roman (49ers training camp).

McCown was 2-7 as Raiders starter in 2007 when new Browns offensive coordinator John DeFilippo had the first of two stints as Raiders quarterbacks coach.

McCown was 1-10 last season with Tampa Bay. He was given his release two weeks ago to give him a jumpstart on NFL free agency. McCown had also visited with the Bears and Jets.

“Josh is a high-character, savvy, veteran quarterback that has a lot to offer to our team,” said Browns coach Mike Pettine. “When you hear from people that have been around Josh, they speak of the leadership qualities and the positive impact he has on a locker room. I really enjoyed spending time with him during his visit. He has great passion for playing the quarterback position and wants to show that he can still be successful in this league. 

“Obviously, he is a quarterback that has been in a number of systems and he has worked with (DeFilippo) so there is some good familiarity between the two. We are excited to have him become part of our team and we look forward to him playing an important role in our offense.”

McCown is the older brother of 2004 Browns draft choice Luke McCown, who went 0-4 in four emergency starts as a rookie. Luke McCown is under contract with the New Orleans Saints.

In 12 NFL seasons, McCown completed 58.8 percent of his passes with 61 touchdowns v. 59 interceptions. His career passer rating is 76.1.

“I just want to serve our team and help everybody in that locker room, do my best to help everybody in the locker room be better at their job and they're going to help me, too. It's a two-way street,” McCown said. “I'm just excited about coming in and being a part of a team.

“Year 1 was a solid first year for coach (Mike) Pettine, and to see the vision with what he's got going on is exciting to me. In my room, I want to be able to help those young guys and pass along my knowledge and experiences I've had and help them grow.”


Tony Grossi covers the Browns for ESPN 850 WKNR, ESPN 1540 KNR2 and

He has covered the Browns with distinction since 1984 and is one of 46 voters for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Use the hashtag #HeyTony on Twitter or email your “Hey Tony” questions to

Follow Tony on Twitter @tonygrossi




Tony Grossi's Mock Draft 2.0: Top three receivers off board before Browns' pick at No. 12

Feb 27, 2015 -- 6:00am

By Tony Grossi |



The Morning Kickoff:

Mock draft 2.0: Several players moved up in our second mock draft as a result of fine performances at the NFL Combine in Indianapolis.

Unfortunately for the Browns, some of the biggest movers were wide receivers. Each of the top three-rated prospects at the position moved up, putting them all out of reach for the Browns with the No. 12 pick.

West Virginia’s Kevin White equaled the biggest gain of the second week, moving seven notches and jumping past Alabama’s Amari Cooper as the first receiver taken. The ripple effect moved Louisville’s DeVante Parker into the 11th spot.

Rather than reach for the fourth-best receiver, the Browns juxtaposed their top priorities and advanced Texas defensive tackle Malcom Brown from the 19th selection last week to No. 12 this week. Like the receivers, Brown had a good Combine.

With the Combine complete, the next phase of the draft process are the pro days. They start on Monday. By the end of the week, 24 schools will stage pro days, including the following with first-round prospects – Clemson, Nebraska and Airzona State.

As a reminder, our preliminary mock drafts will stop at the Browns’ second selection at No. 19. Our final mock draft on April 30 will include the entire first round.

1. Tampa Bay: QB Jameis Winston, Florida State

He looks good, and the Bucs know it.

2. Tennessee: QB Marcus Mariota, Oregon

They like Zach Mettenberger more? What’s the last smart thing Titans have done?

3. Jacksonville: DT Leonard Williams, Southern California

Gus Bradley lands the draft’s best defensive player.

4. Oakland: WR Kevin White, West Virginia

Leap-frogs to top of receiver class after combine tour de force.

5. Washington: OLB Dante Fowler, Florida

Best edge pass rusher fits new coordinator Joe Barry’s scheme.

6. N.Y. Jets: WR Amari Cooper, Alabama

They’re always looking to rule the back pages of the Big Apple tabloids.

7. Chicago: DT Danny Shelton, Washington

He is the cornerstone of Bears’ new effort to restore the defense.

8. Atlanta: OLB Vic Beasley, Clemson

This speed rusher in a dome can be frightful.

9. N.Y. Giants: DE Randy Gregory, Nebraska

GM Jerry Reese always on the lookout for pass rushers.

10. St. Louis: OT Brandon Scherff, Iowa

Rams need to protect QB Sam Bradford – if they keep him.

11. Minnesota: WR DeVante Paker, Louisville

Reunion with QB Teddy Bridgewater brings joy to Norv Turner, too.

12. Cleveland: DT Malcom Brown, Texas

Can’t afford to pass him up here after stellar combine.

13. New Orleans: DE-OLB Alvin Dupree, Kentucky

Mardi Gras parade king Rob Ryan would dance on Bourbon Street with this pick.

14. Miami: CB Trae Waynes, Michigan State

A real climber after spectacular Combine performance.

15. San Francisco: DE Arik Armstead, Oregon

GM Trent Baalke is on the spot after Jim Harbaugh separation.

16. Houston: SS Landon Collins, Alabama

Best defensive player on board can handle either safety spot.

17. San Diego: OT Andrus Peat, Stanford

This would solidify their offensive line.

18. Kansas City: WR Breshad Perriman, Central Florida

Continues revamping of receiving corps after free agency.

19. Cleveland: WR Jaelen Strong, Arizona State

Aptly named physical wideout with a strong work ethic.


Tony Grossi covers the Browns for ESPN 850 WKNR, ESPN 1540 KNR2 and

He has covered the Browns with distinction since 1984 and is one of 46 voters for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Use the hashtag #HeyTony on Twitter or email your “Hey Tony” questions to

Follow Tony on Twitter @tonygrossi




Brady Quinn: Browns need to stick with a quarterback and allow him time to develop

Feb 26, 2015 -- 6:00am

By Tony Grossi |


The Morning Kickoff …

Here we go again: Sixteen seasons. Seven head coaches. Fourteen offensive coordinators. Twenty-two starting quarterbacks. It’s not an inspiring record.

The Browns changed coordinators and are in the process of changing their offensive playbook. With Johnny Manziel in rehab and free agent-to-be Brian Hoyer apparently persona non grata, the team is on the verge of acquiring yet another new quarterback.

Perhaps it will be 35-year-old Josh McCown, who completed his two-day visit on Wednesday and soon will choose between the Browns, Bills, Bears and Jets.

If not McCown, the new Browns’ quarterback could be Jake Locker or Mark Sanchez or Mike Glennon or Sam Bradford or Nick Foles. Or somebody else.

It’s only a matter of time before the Browns name their 23rd different starting quarterback since 1999.

"It pains me to always hear that," said Brady Quinn.

Quinn was one of the 22 -- No. 12, chronologically -- and one of four drafted in the first round by the Browns in their expansion era. The others were Tim Couch, Brandon Weeden and Manziel.

Quinn, 30, last played in a game with the Chiefs in the 2012 season. He spent time on the rosters of the Jets and Rams in 2013. His career with the Browns lasted three seasons. In 12 starts, he won 3 and lost 9 and was traded to the Broncos in 2010 in the Tom Heckert-engineered deal that brought the Browns Peyton Hillis.

In the last year, Quinn has dabbled in the media, serving as a college football analyst with FoxSports1. He writes a column on the NFL for He continues to keep in excellent shape just in case a team asks him to make a comeback.  

From a distance, Quinn shakes his head when he ponders the musical chairs that has become the Cleveland Browns.

Stop the music: “I was drafted there (in 2007) and I had high hopes, and I was traded away. I always felt there was unfinished business,” Quinn said on the Hey Tony Show on ESPN 1540 KNR2.

“I never had the opportunity to really feel like I was ever surrounded or put with some things around me to work. Phil Savage our GM and Romeo Crennel got fired after a couple years that I had them. Then Eric Mangini was there a couple years and he got fired.

“It seems to be a revolving door, and same thing for the players. There’s not a lot of continuity on the roster. Marc Sessler for wrote an article talking about musical chairs … the Browns need to keep churning through quarterbacks ‘til they find their one. Look, they’ve done that since 1999 and it hasn’t worked.

“What they need to do is finally set a foundation and build around a quarterback. Or if you don’t feel you have one, then you build the team up and target a guy in free agency or wait until you find a guy in the draft who you feel is special and you do everything you can to get him.”

Stick to your guns: Quinn finds it hard to believe that Hoyer could be not wanted back by the Browns.

“The issue is the Browns have not done a good job of building a foundation around any quarterback, allowing that quarterback to go through any bumps and bruises,” he said. “Look, Brian Hoyer’s had one of the best records as a starting quarterback for the Cleveland Browns in a long time, and they still didn’t even give him the ability to fight through some of the adversities that every quarterback’s going to face.

“And let’s not forget, the Browns are playing in the AFC North. I might be biased because I was there for three years and I spent the majority of my career in the AFC, but the AFC North is arguably one of the toughest divisions to play in the NFL. They’ve got a tough competition week in and week out playing against Baltimore, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.

“So it’s not easy for any quarterback to really achieve at a high level, given the elements, always playing outdoors, to put up a ton of stats, and on top of this, playing against tough defenses.

“So at some point … at some point … the Browns’ organization -- and I’m talking top down -- needs to have some patience, needs to stick to their guns, and needs to trust themselves in the decision making they make, stick through everything – whether it’s the fans or the media, whoever’s giving them a bunch of crap – stick to their guns, allow guys to develop and then eventually flourish.

“And I think they’ll see a lot more success.

“It may not come as soon as they want, but it eventually will come.”


Tony Grossi covers the Browns for ESPN 850 WKNR, ESPN 1540 KNR2 and

He has covered the Browns with distinction since 1984 and is one of 46 voters for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Use the hashtag #HeyTony on Twitter or email your “Hey Tony” questions to

Follow Tony on Twitter @tonygrossi




Browns quarterback search returns to veteran phase with visit with Josh McCown

Feb 25, 2015 -- 6:00am

By Tony Grossi |



The Morning Kickoff …

Pace quickens: After a week in Indianapolis at the NFL Combine – where they learned how depressing is the quarterback pool in the draft after Heisman Trophy winners Jameis Winston and Marcus Mariota -- the Browns returned home to resume the veteran phase of their quarterback search.

On Wednesday, the Browns are continuing a visit in Berea with quarterback Josh McCown.

McCown, 35, is coming off a year in which he won one of 11 starts for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, reducing his career won-loss record as a starting quarterback in 12 NFL seasons with six teams to 17-32.

Nevertheless, McCown has visited with the Bills, Bears and Jets. He has the advantage of making visits and negotiating a contract prior to the official start of unrestricted free agency on March 10 because he was released by Tampa Bay last week.

McCown is the older brother of 2004 Butch Davis Browns draft choice Luke McCown, whose 0-4 record as an emergency starter as a rookie ranks last among 22 Browns quarterbacks who have started at least one game in the expansion era.

Prospective free agents the Browns may show interest in include Jake Locker (Titans), Mark Sanchez (Eagles) and Matt Moore (Dolphins).

Like the draft prospects beyond Winston and Mariota, it is not a bumper crop of veteran quarterbacks.

“Just because one guy didn’t have success in one place doesn’t mean he won’t have success in another,” Browns GM Ray Farmer said at the NFL Combine. “It’s about finding the guy with the resolute skill set that matches who you want to be offensively, finding that guy and bringing him to Cleveland.”

Quarterbacks under contract who might be available in trade include Sam Bradford (Rams), Jay Cutler (Bears), Nick Foles (Eagles), Kirk Cousins (Redskins) and Mike Glennon (Bucs).

Meanwhile, the Browns enjoy exclusive negotiating rights with unsigned Brian Hoyer, whose 10-6 record is the best among the Browns’ 22 starters since 1999, but they have not acted on them.

Hoyer is still waiting for a meeting with Farmer to gauge the level of the team’s interest before entering the marketplace on March 10.

Making changes: There was much talk in Indianapolis about changes the Browns might make in their scouting process to avoid repeating mistakes made last year in vetting character flaws in prospects.

“I do think that it’s all about recovering information and trying to create better relationships and bonds,” Farmer said. “Inevitably, everybody has a piece to this puzzle, so you only get information from the people that are willing to share it with you. So the information that you get, you’ve got to be resolute as to what that is and how that comes about.

“So adding experience to our scouting staff I think was a major part of that. Guys have existing relationships, longstanding relationships. You feel you get a better take as to what you’re getting in the quality of that information.”

Farmer said that those changes were made following the 2014 draft when he added “six or seven … experienced guys, guys who’ve been in the league 20-plus years.”

Farmer’s new team: Here is a review of the additions Farmer made in May and June of last year that will directly affect the team’s draft in 2015. Each of these additions had a history with Farmer.

* Bill Kuharich, 62, executive chief of staff: In 2006, Kuharich was Kansas City Chiefs vice president of player personnel when he named Farmer Chiefs director of pro personnel. Farmer initially used him as a consultant for the 2014 draft. Kuharich received his permanent post in May. In December, Kuharich was interviewed for the Jets general manager opening that was filled by Texans college scouting director Mike Maccagnan. Kuharich has 23 years NFL experience with the Saints, Chiefs and Browns.

* Ron Hill, senior player personnel associate: In 2002, Hill was Atlanta Falcons vice president of player personnel and gave Farmer his first job as an NFL area scout. Hill was hired by Kuharich for a personnel job with the Chiefs in 2006 but left shortly thereafter for a position in the NFL office. He has 35 years experience in the NFL. Hill was linked to a possible advisory role with the Buffalo Bills in January, but he stayed with the Browns.

* Charles Bailey, senior player personnel associate: In 1999, Kuharich was president and general manager of the New Orleans Saints and made Bailey the team’s assistant general manager. Bailey also worked in personnel with the Steelers and Jaguars.

* Mike Hagen, senior player personnel associate: In 2002, Hagen was supervisor of college scouting for the Falcons when Farmer was a Falcons scout. In 2006, he was a scout with the Chiefs when Farmer was director of pro personnel. Hagen has 28 years in the NFL.

* Bobby DePaul, senior player personnel associate: In 1997, he transitioned to personnel with the Philadelphia Eagles when Farmer was a player with the Eagles. A long-time pro personnel director of the Chicago Bears and advance scout with the Eagles, he never worked with Kuharich but the two have been acquaintances for 20 years, Kuharich said. DePaul has 23 years in the NFL.

* James Kirkland, senior player personnel associate: He broke in as a scouting intern with the Falcons when Farmer was a scout with them. Kirkland was a Browns scout in 2004 and was promoted to assistant director of pro personnel under Phil Savage in 2007. Kirkland has 11 years in the NFL.

* Scott Aligo, player personnel associate: From 2005 to 2009, he was a player personnel assistant with the Chiefs while Kuharich and Farmer held executive positions with the team. He has six years in the NFL after five years as an assistant coach in college most recently at Texas A&M.


Tony Grossi covers the Browns for ESPN 850 WKNR, ESPN 1540 KNR2 and

He has covered the Browns with distinction since 1984 and is one of 46 voters for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Use the hashtag #HeyTony on Twitter or email your “Hey Tony” questions to

Follow Tony on Twitter @tonygrossi




Browns 'evolving' primary logo tips off uniform colors with bolder orange and brown facemask

Feb 24, 2015 -- 11:50am

By Tony Grossi |


When news leaked last week that the Browns were introducing a new primary logo, the organization privately braced for a public letdown.

That anxiety grew as a week of images floated through the Internet featuring radical designs of a dog face emblazoned on the Browns’ helmet, some variation of the old Brownie elf and a new silhouette of founding coach Paul Brown wearing a fedora.

Sure enough, the new primary logo released on Tuesday was hardly changed. The Browns announced it as an “evolving” logo.

It remains a logo-less orange helmet, but with a deeper shade of orange and a brown facemask, and cleaner and bolder wording of Cleveland Browns beneath it.

Browns President Alec Scheiner said that the team’s market research revealed that fans wanted to modernize the team’s look but not to lose sight of its traditional colors.

“We think the orange brings more energy and vibrancy – and it’s also a hint of what’s to come in the uniforms -- and the brown facemask, we think, brings toughness and the ‘Play like a Brown’ mantra,” Scheiner said.

According to the club, the Browns began wearing brown facemasks in 1952 and continued off and on through 1962.

The new uniforms – the result of a two-year project undertaken by NFL marketing executives and league-licensed apparel manufacturer NIKE – will be unveiled on April 14 at an event in Cleveland Convention Center, Scheiner said.

The uniforms will represent a more radical modernization, Scheiner promised, but will still link the team’s tradition.

ESPN Cleveland has reported a fourth color – believed to be a gun-metal shade of gray – may be incorporated in the new duds and that the Browns intend to mix up to six uniform combinations from a selection of three jersey and two pants styles.

Scheiner said, “We’ll wait for April 14 to see.”

When owner Jimmy Haslam embarked on this two-year uniform and corporate mark re-do, he told ESPN Cleveland that “anything is on the table,” from radical to conservative, to no changes at all. Scheiner would not say whether NIKE even proposed new colors for the Browns to consider.

Haslam and Scheiner were among five people in the organization who made the final decisions on the new logo, uniform styles and colors.

Scheiner said the team considered over 100 logo designs but chose to stay with the helmet because “we’re the only NFL team whose primary mark matches the helmet. We thought departing from that would be too radical a departure.”

The team also unveiled a secondary logo marking the 30th anniversary of the naming of the Dawg Pound, featuring a fiercer face of a dog. Scheiner also said the Brownie elf would continue to be used as an additional mark of the club.

On other matters, Scheiner:

* Confirmed the Browns will hold training camp in Berea for 2015, but will continue to explore optional sites in Columbus for the future. He said that if a portion of camp is moved to Columbus, the team would reserve a week or two of camp in Berea, also.

* Said the Browns will introduce a FanFest this summer, with details to follow.

* Disputed reports that there is friction between the Browns’ business and football operations and said he does not desire a louder voice in football ops.

“The way I look at it, the most important thing is how we work together in the building. And I feel great about that,” Scheiner said.

“I like my role. I have enough on my plate. Jimmy is relying on my experience in business. I think I’ve been involved with professional football for about 16 years – with Cowboys, as an outside lawyer before that.”

Scheiner confirmed he watches film of Browns’ games with GM Ray Farmer, but said he does so only to learn from him.

“Ray has been nice enough to let me watch tape with him and a few other scouts in the past, and I take advantage of it,” he said.

Scheiner said the film sessions don’t interfere with his job.

“That’s why I try to do it before work starts (at 6 in the morning),” he said.



Tony Grossi covers the Browns for ESPN 850 WKNR, ESPN 1540 KNR2 and

He has covered the Browns with distinction since 1984 and is one of 46 voters for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Use the hashtag #HeyTony on Twitter or email your “Hey Tony” questions to

Follow Tony on Twitter @tonygrossi




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